Snatch Casino - Hráč má potíže s limitem vkladu.

Dear Casino Guru Team,

On the 7th of August, 2023, I requested a deposit limit of 100 Euros per month and was confirmed through an email on the 11th of August, 2023, at 08:56.

Despite this, I was still able to make deposits beyond the limit: I managed to deposit a total amount of 909 Euros from the time of my limit request, which exceeded the limit by 809 Euros. After I was given written confirmation of the limit, I ended up depositing an extra 509 Euros over the limit.

After reaching out to customer support via email, I was contacted about a week later by a 'VIP Manager'. She first offered me a refund of 339 Euros, and then later that same day, this was reduced to 300 Euros. The responses were very contradictory and confusing.

Unfortunately, I am no longer receiving any responses from my 'VIP Manager'. When I once again contacted support by email, I was directed back to my 'supervisor'.

I have the feeling that the process is purposefully being dragged out, with the hope that I will eventually give up...

Best regards,

Liebes Casino Guru Team,

Ich habe am 07.08.2023 ein Einzahlungslimit (100.- pro Monat) beantragt und die Einrichtung des Limits wurde mir am 11.08.2023 um 08:56 via Email bestätigt.

Dennoch konnte ich anschließend Einzahlungen über das Limit hinaus tätigen: ich habe 909.- Euro ab dem Zeitpunkt des Limit Requests einzahlen können - 809.- Euro zuviel. Nach dem Zeitpunkt, als mir das Limit schriftlich bestätigt wurde, waren es 509.- Euro über dem Limit.

Nach dem ich mich via email an den Kunden Support gewandt habe, wurde ich rund eine Woche später von einer 'VIP Managerin' kontaktiert und mir wurden erst 339.-Euro, später am gleich Tag nur noch 300.- Euro Rückerstattung angeboten. Und auch die Antworten waren sehr widersprüchlich (und verwirrend).

Mittlerweile bekomme ich leider keine Antwort mehr von meiner 'VIP-Managerin' und als ich mich erneut via Email an den Support gewandt habe, wurde ich verwiesen mich wieder an meinen 'Vorgesetzten' zu wenden.

Ich habe das Gefühl, dass der Vorgang beabsichtigt in die Länge gezogen wird, in der Hoffnung, dass ich irgendwann aufgebe...

beste Grüße

Dear zeninosilla,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I'm sorry to hear about your problem.

Could you please confirm that you passed the KYC verification?

Could you please specify how many deposits have you made since you activated your deposit limit? Was it prior to confirming your deposit limit by the casino or after that?

Please forward any relevant communication between you and the casino regarding setting your monthly deposit limits and the subsequent refund offering to veronika.l@casino.guru.

I hope we will be able to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.

Best regards

Veronika

Thanks Veronika, I emailed you everything.

Danke Veronika, ich habe Ihnen alles per Email geschickt.

Thank you for your email. I have checked all the documents you provided and have a few additional questions.

You received an email on 11 August stating your monthly deposit limit has been activated. When exactly were you informed that it would be actually active from midnight onwards (that is, basically from 12 August)? Have you been warned by the casino in any way that your account could not be frozen on 11 August because you accumulated some winnings?

Could you please specify the exact dates the WhatsApp communications you sent me are from?

Dear Veronika,

I think there is a misunderstanding here: I didn't want to have my account blocked, I just wanted to set a deposit limit. I don't understand why this can't be set up (regardless of account balance). What does this have to do with a ban?

You write or ask: "Were you warned in any way by the casino that your account could not be blocked on August 11th because you had accumulated some winnings?"

At no time did I request that my account be blocked. I have requested a deposit limit.

I was not informed that this limit would only be active after midnight. I was told in the email on August 11th. (only when I asked) confirmed that the limit had already been set. I applied for the limit on August 7th, I would have expected it to be set up immediately, if not immediately then within 24 hours.

At other casinos, I have found that limits are set immediately after application.

The WhatsApp messages were sent between August 17th. and 21.08. Posted.

Snatch Casino has now transferred me 300 euros, even though I told the support/VIP manager in advance that I didn't agree with the amount. It is significantly less than the amount I deposited after applying for the limit. In addition, my account has now been blocked.

I look forward to hearing from you again.

Thank you very much & best regards

Liebe Veronika,

ich glaube, hier liegt ein Missverständnis vor: ich wollte mein Konto nicht sperren lassen, sondern lediglich ein Einzahlungslimit einrichten. Ich verstehe nicht, warum das nicht (unabhängig von Kontoguthaben) eingerichtet werden kann. Was hat dies mit einer Sperrung zu tun?

Sie schreiben, bzw. fragen : "Wurden Sie vom Casino in irgendeiner Weise gewarnt, dass Ihr Konto am 11. August nicht gesperrt werden konnte, weil Sie einige Gewinne angesammelt hatten?"

Ich habe zu keinem Zeitpunkt beantragt, mein Konto zu sperren. Ich habe ein Einzahlungslimit beantragt.

Ich wurde nicht darüber informiert, dass dieses Limit erst nach Mitternacht aktiv sei. Mir wurde ja in der Email am 11.8. (erst auf Nachfrage meinerseits) bestätigt, dass das Limit bereits festgelegt sei. Beantragt habe ich das Limit am 07.08., ich hätte eine umgehende Einrichtung erwartet, wenn nicht sofort , dann Innerhalb von 24 Stunden.

Bei anderen Casinos habe ich die Erfahrung gemacht, dass Limits sofort nach Beantragung eingerichtet sind.

Die WhatsApp Mitteilungen wurden zwischen dem 17.08. und 21.08. gesendet.

Mittlerweile hat mir Snatch Casino 300.- Euro überwiesen, obwohl ich dem Support/VIP Manager vorab mittgeteilt habe, dass ich mit dem Betrag nicht einverstanden bin. Er ist deutlich unter dem Betrag, den ich nach Beantragung des Limits eingezahlt hatte. Zudem wurde mein Konto nun auch gesperrt.

Ich freue mich, wieder von Ihnen zu hören.

Herzlichen Dank & beste Grüße

Thank you very much, zeninosilla, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.m@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.

Hi zeninosilla,

I have looked at your case and understand the situation. Let me contact the casino and I will do my best to help. I would like to invite Snatch Casino to the conversation to participate in the resolution of this complaint.

We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

Dear Peter and zeninosilla,

Sorry for the long answer. We would like to present the situation from our side.

The client requested deposit limits, we set them, but our system was not ideal and therefore two factors occurred that negatively affected the client's experience:

1) When the limit is reached, we must freeze the client’s account, this is specified in the casino’s terms of use.

2) Data about reaching the limit was updated only once at 00:00 every day.

At the moment, we have corrected both of these issues and everything is working as it should.

On the day the client reached his limit, he made deposits in the amount of 400 euros (limits were 100 euros). His account should have been frozen at 00:00 on the same day, however, there is a general rule - we do not have the right to freeze accounts with a balance. It so happened that the client was lucky that day and won a big win, more than 1000 euros. After which the client created a withdrawal request. Since it was the weekend, the client's request to withdraw 1000 euros was processed on Monday. Over the weekend, the client made deposits of another 409 euros.

We admit our mistake and therefore made a refund of 300 euros, which the client spent on the first day in excess of his limit, however, we consider it unfair to refund the funds for subsequent days, because the client withdrew winnings in an amount that was significantly greater than he lost.

Dear Snatch Casino,

Thank you very much for your comment.

However, I think it is unfair not to refund the deposits that were accepted despite the confirmed deposit limit.

Even if I have made profits, a deposit limit should protect me from losing everything again.

It is irrelevant whether I made profits or not.

The fact is:

1. I have requested a deposit limit.
2. this was confirmed to me.
3. However, I was still able to make deposits beyond the deposit limit that should not have been accepted.

Therefore, I am requesting a refund of the full amount of all deposits that were accepted in excess of the limit.

Best regards

Liebes Snatch Casino,

vielen Dann für die Stellungnahme.

Jedoch halte ich es wiederum für unfair, mir die Einzahlungen, die ihrerseits trotz bestätigtem Einzahlungslimit akzeptiert wurden, nicht zurück zu erstatten.

Auch wenn ich Gewinne erzielt habe, sollte ein Einzahlungslimit mich davor schützen, nicht wieder alles zu verlieren.

Es ist irrelevant, ob ich Gewinne erzielt habe oder nicht.

Tatsache ist:

1. ich habe ein Einzahlungslimit beantragt.
2. dieses wurde mir bestätigt.
3. dennoch konnte ich über das Einzahlungslimit hinaus Einzahlungen tätigen, die nicht hätten akzeptiert werden dürfen.

Daher fordere ich den kompletten Betrag aller Einzahlungen, die über das Limit hinaus akzeptiert wurden, zurück.

Betse Grüße

Hi all,

Thank you for your replies.

Dear Snatch Casino team,

Let's sum up the information so far:

1. zeninosilla set up a daily deposit limit of €100
2. the limit didn't work and zeninosilla was allowed to deposit another €300 and eventually won over €1000
3. the limit didn't work the whole weekend and zeninosilla was allowed to make further deposits of another €409 while the withdrawal was pending

First of all, I must say that the system of how the deposit limit works is quite bad UX. Why does the casino have to block a player's account to limit their deposits? And when it has to block the account, why can't it block the account with a positive balance? That doesn't make much sense to me. Let me ask you one important thing. Did zeninosilla win the €1000 with his first deposits within the limit of €100 or were they made with the deposits over the limit?

Hi Peter,

I have requested a monthly deposit limit of 100.-.

I was able to deposit 909 euros from the time of the limit request - 809 euros too much (100 euro deposit limit)

I won the 1,000 euros before the deposit limit was confirmed.

Thank you, best regards

Hi Peter,

ich habe ein monatliches Einzahlungslimit in Höhe von 100.- beantragt.

ich habe 909.- Euro ab dem Zeitpunkt des Limit Requests einzahlen können - 809.- Euro zuviel (100.- euro EInzahungslimit)

die 1.000.- euro habe ich gewonnen, bevor mir das Einzahlungslimit bestätigt wurde.

Danke, beste Grüße

Dear Guru,

The UX of setting limits already looks better, now there is no need to freeze the account when the limit is reached.

1000 euros were won from deposits made over the limits.

Hi all,

Thank you for your replies.

Dear zeninosilla,

Since you earned the €1000 from playing with the funds you were allowed to deposit over the €100 limit, we agree with the casino's decision to only refund you the €300. Eventually, the bug turned to your advantage. If the limit was applied correctly, you wouldn't win the €1000.

Dear zeninosilla,

We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.

Hi Peter,

That's not correct - I won the 1,000 euros before the limit was confirmed.

I had already sent this email communication to Veronika via email.

In this email you can see that I asked for two withdrawals to be processed and at the same time reminded me to create a limit.

After that I no longer had any winnings that led to a withdrawal.

Thank you very much, kind regards.

Hallo Peter,

das ist nicht korrekt - die 1.000.- Euro habe ich gewonnen bevor das Limit bestätigt wurde.

Diese Emailkommunikation hatte ich bereits an Veronika via email gesendet.

In dieser Email ist ersichtlich, dass ich um Bearbeitung zweier Auszahlungen gebeten habe und zeitgleich an die Limiterstellung erinnert habe.

Danach hatte ich keine Gewinne mehr, die zu einer Auszahlung geführt haben.

Vielen Dank, liebe Grüße.

Could you please send your deposit/withdrawal history with the exact amounts and times to my email address (peter.m@casino.guru)?

Dear zeninosilla,

We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.

Unfortunately, the player has not responded to our messages and questions. Consequently, we are unable to investigate further and have no choice but to reject this complaint.