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It's clearly interesting that quickbit's CEO is a party leader and does business on shady transactions like this

klart intresant är ju att quickbits vd är partiledare och gör affärer på sånna här skumma transaktioner

Hi

I have been reading through this forum.

I have just deposited at a non gamstop casino and the deposits were taken in Euro's apparently but I didn't get charged any fees from my bank. All deposits made on the same day and were taken by these merchants:

Empire

VideogameShaven

0EF2

KPDG

Only reference on each of these deposits was - CD 4045 EU and one was CD 4045 KE.

What does this reference mean? How was the deposits taken?

Can anyone help with this?

You will be charged by your bank it won't be automatically if they do. it may take a day or so it depends who you bank with. Some banks don't charge for international transactions

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Mine normally does and charges the same day that the payment goes out but not this time.

Quickbit as someone has mentioned.

But also, something that would be of interest would be to look into all the Swedish game providers, providing their games to all these casinos, and just washing away any responsibilities from their side.

Gaming Corps, No Limit City, NetEnt, Evolution, Elk, No Limit City, Thunderkick, I think some more might also be Swedish. Quite a lot of the big providers are Swedish.

But then you also have the issue that the Swedish Government allows almost all games providers to provide their games to Swedish licensed casinos, but they don't put any pressure on the games providers to do everything they can to make their games not be able to be played by Swedish players on casinos with fake licenses such as MGA, Estonia and Curacao. It's all about the money from the Swedish Gambling Authority too, they don't care either.

You should also try to look into the company Worldline and their PaymentIQ service which is a payment orchestration setup, they are processing a lot of card payments for these unlicensed casinos.

And, Visa and MasterCard does nothing against it either, it been reported several times by consumer to Visa/MasterCard with no responses, they take no responsibilties either, even though they have decided gambling transactions should be coded 7995. These should also be questioned for why they are allowing this to happen and without responding to consumer reports.

And now there even seems to be casinos offering payments through Swish and Klarna, through Swipe, most likely not with Swish/Klarna/Swipe approval, but it is so easy for the casinos to set these things up on shell companies to process payments as something else than gambling. Create a webbshop, sell something fake, get a payment provider contract, use that contract to process your fake payments but they are casino transactions instead.

It's a big jungle and very hard to keep track of.

And one other company to look into, not a payment provider, but a huge promoter of these casinos is the Joelsson Media Company who runs casinodaddy. 559078-3352

Might not be illegal to promote these casinos, but questionable for sure.

By promoting these casinos, they earn millions on affiliate deals. And they only earn this money because the casinos are bypassing payment rules.

Did you try a chargeback? Does anyone know of any success stories?

From my understanding most of these shady companies use a form of stripe payment processing.

stripe forbids gambling transactions in general so im curious as to if they even fight chargebacks and if so how they try and justify it?

Have you got an update on payop?

My bank wasn't having any of it even though I had gambiling blocks and international transaction blocks on my card they won't except responsibility as they said I authorised the transactions. Even though they where fraudulent and they used fraudulent means to override the system to obtain funds

Hey,

New to the party. I successfully chargedback £850 with Wintermads and £500 with Enygma SAS.

anyone have contact info for ZDPG?

also, I have emailed canapay but need a better template if anyone has one?

Ps, what’s the discord? Need help with MYDATES 🙂

How did you get in contact with Enygma Sas? Or did you do a chargeback though your bank? Thanks

Hey! Sadly, it was directly through my bank. Told them I bought gift cards and they didn’t work in my country/never arrived. They refunded me in 24 hours.

Not sure about discord etc.

I think going through the chargeback option is the best way forward now. Reading through the Visa and Mastercard terms and conditions on top of the chargeback rules and regulations regarding merchant codes. It appears that certain banks are reluctant to follow through the chargeback simply because of a lack of understanding around the subject, which is ironic but understandable.

You just need to simplify it, services not received and its for them to prove that they provided a service to you. If they so much as dare to challenge the chargeback you can then hit them with the Visa and Mastercard guidelines such as 12.7 Incorrect Codes. Which has a penalty of £25,000 per transaction with an incorrect code.

Followed by standing your ground as to no services received and you will win.

It will never get to a point where they go to arbitration because they will be fu@ed.

Who do you bank with? What did you actually say to them?

Just said I purchased giftcards online from alottoplay.com (it’s a front for some gambling websites). Said they didn’t work. They asked for me to prove I asked for a refund - I did on live chat, they obviously said no refunds. TSB then charged back!

Sandander. I have just been on phone with them and challenged them to the charge back. They said that lots of websites use various merchants I said not gambiling sites like dating merchants and books ect. It's bloody money laundering and it's all registered to same company. Now are you going to do something about it? As you allowed the transaction to go through as I had blocks ony cards so I also mentioned the 21.7 incorrect codes. So they have done a charge back for every transaction but I don't if it will go through as its sandander. If they don't sort it I will take them. To the FO

Well done for standing your ground and referring to the visa and mastercard directly, it ties there hands and they then need to go ahead with the chargeback. The good thing is that if the third party does dispute it, it opens a can of worms for them so it is not in their best interest. How much did you chargeback for? Was it just the one transaction?

Any update?