Hry na demo? (strana 2)

Hm, that's quite an interesting view and of course thank you for sharing it with us. As for the demo games, yes sometimes they can probably be harder to win than you say. But as long as it's just a demo, it's okay because you don't lose any money and at least you can see if it's worth playing such a game for real money in a casino. 

When it comes to real money and the bonus buy you mentioned, it's great to win such a big jackpot. Personally, I'd take it out and not play it anymore because, as you say, eventually in the long run player loses it all anyway. 

Don't judge game by demo mode.

Demo is there to just give you info of how the game works, or violaty of getting scatters. Or maybe type of game , as some game have good system of bonus/free games and some don't as much.

But win/lose is JUST math on other side.

I love certain games and i lost 30min on each of them many times and don't even get scatters.

and sometimes first spin gives scatters.

I've already done some tests on retention, it worked.

Some casinos the RTP of the demo is always the same as the game And sometimes the game doesn't pay in the demo and doesn't pay with real money I've also done the tests, most of them were a coincidence

And of course no, 100% more help in the game

Ja fiz alguns teste sobre rentençao deu certo

Alguns cassino o rtp da demonstração e sempre o mesmo do jogo E as vezes o jogo não paga na demonstração e não paga com dinheiro real também já fiz os teste a maioria deu a coincidência

E claro não não 100% mais ajuda no jogo

It's interesting to hear about your experiences with demo play on certain games. Many players have noticed similar patterns, where they tend to have more significant wins during the initial rounds, possibly as a way to pique their interest. However, it's important to remember that these demo sessions don't always reflect real-money play.

Using demo mode to test games before committing your deposit is a smart approach, as it allows you to gauge whether the game suits your preferences. Keep in mind that real-money play can have different outcomes, and it's essential to gamble responsibly and within your budget. Best of luck with your future sessions, and I hope you continue to enjoy your gaming experience!

I usually attempt to play demo with bonus buy feature before play real money, for me usually buy bonus in demo is bad result, so when I play real money and if the bonus buy is really bad than demo then we should stop. example bonus buy and get below 10x of your base bet then we should stop. I ever try play harder because I saw some forum said when the machine hard and the chance to get big win is higher which is not true. Always stick with your best nomination, never got above 5 level of your bet. All the way play for 100 spins then stop. First few bet and hit bonus but payout no good, change game. If the result too good, change game. my personal experience, demo is just to let you see the play pattern, the casino is sharing server unless you are playing alone when people are sleeping.

The RNG map is fixed, someone may get your map when u idle. so.... don't too serious on demo, real server is real game also the RTP is different compare to real game. So the outcome will be very different.

Hm, so you have this experience with demo games. Do you try it mostly by first playing the demo version to see how the game works and then playing in the casino ? Or do you have some other method ? 

Obviously it's always about coincidence. If you are interested, I can share a guide to slots and RTP that we have where you can learn something new: https://casino.guru/learn-about-games-of-chance-rtp-variance

If you're interested, feel free to say so. 

I agree with what you wrote and I feel I don't have much to add. 

Anyway, what experience do you have? Do you also try the demo version of the game first before you play in the casino or is that not your cup of coffee ? ?)

Hello, I see that you are also adding to the experience as well as other players as far as the demo version is concerned. I see that you test mostly bonus buy. How much did you win on the real money bought bonus if I may know? I am asking purely out of curiosity. 🙂

This is my result. But overall lost around 20K USD for this No Limit City game provider with bonus buy and around 10k USD for base spin up to date.My bonus buy around 200 USD to 800 USD per bonus buy and base spin is around 10K USD with around 1usd to 3 usd per spin, my wagering around 120K USD up to date for bonus buy and 30K USD for base spin. The hacksaw gaming and Pragmatic took me around 10K USD loss for bonus buy. Hacksaw gaming bonus buy is really unpredictable. There is no reviving chance at all. No Limit City got reviving chance also got max cap, max cap meaning when you get to high tiering bonus level and you win a lot but left 10 spins left, the rest of 10 spins will be dead spin, reviving spin is like you win a little in the begining till last spin and suddenly u win a lot on last 2 spins. I call it reviving spin or teasing spin. So we can't compare demo and real money experience. I can show you one replay link if you want for No Limit City.My personal experience, don't go for RIP Tomestone and True Grit Redemption, is a very hard game.Both games lost around 10K USD for me, bonus buy around 500 USD per bonus buy.

I've now given up playing slots for real or in demo mode. Yes you can win but generally it's lose lose lose and it just hit me I was wasting my money!! I'm now going to save what I have spent gambling what I spent/wasted gambling on slots and I'm going to have a nice holiday instead. Good luck if you continue but after 5yrs of significant loses I see it as legalised robbery 😉

Yes, you are right. This is why I always said, posting huge win doesn't mean we will facing huge loss if we didn't stop. This is the result I'm showing and I completely agreed with you, they are robbery and making a lot of money. This is why I stop gambling anymore.

Thanks for the quite descriptive explanation and experience with bonuses. I think it's for evaluation and every player who goes through this thread will be able to form an opinion based on his own and your experience. So thanks again. 🙂

I think holidays are a perfect idea and it certainly makes more sense than losing money on slots. I hope that this mentality will last for a long time and if you happen to play only occasionally without significant loss of money. Have a nice trip. 🙂

It's all or nothing with me, I'm retired so had too much time on my hands and drifted into playing slots and it took a long time to break the cycle. So never means never even on demo. I was a senior expert on here trying to impart my wisdom and help to people on here. I just came back to see if I could help again. My advice is play on demo before you part with any cash and don't take the initial win that suspiciously tends to happen as a pointer but play a few times using different demonitations and see if it's worth it.

No Limit City is scam provider.

Why do you even play those providers?

Merkur,Novomatic, Greentube, Blueprint, EGT(amusenet), Pragmatic, and since recently Hacksaw are the best providers, and u should avoid others since they literally don't know what they doing.

I gamble 15 years and i still can't believe that some of those providers exist out there.. It makes me wanna make my own provider and put shitty games with no payout whatsoever because i obviously can.

Anyway i would add on that list some more worth of mention:

Barbarabang, 7Mojos, Holle Games, PG soft, Netgame, and Onlyplay /Relax Gaming /Playson.

The rest of providers i found really scammy

Especially No limit city, Spinomenal, Play 'n' go, and all others basically.

Because they offers shitty games which they usually just copy of some other games with diff graphic, and it's impossibl e to win on them.

And i mean it.

even if u won, that's some small amount, not even get your money back. EVERY TIME.

i don't wanna do the math now, but i barely saw anyone ever won on those.

They are here so that scammy casinos can put them as opt to play.

Because no big and good provider will even agree to be on those casinos.

And they are lot of those.So i don't know how they exist on first place. Probably of wobbly Curacao laws and some other countries where they register casinos.

SO GO RESEARCH BEFORE U PLAY .

Don't lose money on scams.

Also , betting/casinos should be for fun.

It's interesting if u not want to take advantage out of it. If u want, u will pay. With time/money.

Just play casual, with money u can lose, because u probably will.

Honestly speaking, I don't know whether you believe or not. I think all games linked together. I played Pragmatic and other games before, all games are quite normal payout, like 50 spins and hit bonus. Which easy to catch. But when I bonus buy in Gate of Olympus game in with USD 5 dominations and hit almost max win roughly 4800x with the multiplier already 500x but still no max win. Guess what, I go try all other games because I won 25k USD, so i just go buy like 100 usd per bonus buy. the payout is very bad. Change game, play normal spin, either megaway or reel kingdom or bonanza, some even 200 spin no hit bonus, even go into bonus the payout is like 10x or 20x. which mean already very abnormal map. After that I change game provider, result is the same, very bad payout. guess what, it wipe off all the 25k and after that the payout getting better. So I believe, the game is capturing your wallet amount. or the casino backend is controlling. No Limit City, I think, it's very bad result for base spin play, you will lose very fast, even we bet for higher booster with 20% more or even 50% more, you can easily go into bonus but payout is bad.I never get big win in base spin result but I got good pay on bonus buy. But still I think all people is sharing the pool.

Back to your point, I think they are scam, hacksaw is actually bad also for me. So I think, most of the people are losing money for long run. There are many new game for Pragmatic is very bad, like Cyclops smash and other. The service providers you mentioned I also tried before such as EGT, Blueprint. If you hear about Microgaming also try to avoid. Redtiger is also hard to win big.

Overall I can say is for my experience is, never think that you can win big in Service provider A, and try go to service provider B can start fresh again, the spin performance I believe is link to your previous win or loss. This is my experience.

I just can share one experience with you with No Limit City and Hacksaw, when you win big, or loss big, they will try to replace your hacksaw or No Limit City game with different RTP map which will start fresh. Example when I played and loss a lot in Anubis or Remember Gulag, next few days later I login, I loss all the history (current game). So I believe the casino doing something fishy behind. I think they got many service for one game.

This is the example that they replace my game history, even through same game but the history is different. RTP also change. So, they can easily just to let you play the difficult game without notice you. My all game still can find the best result, but when into the game, the history is changed or reset. When you notice this, you're start with fresh performance. The casino is controlling the key.

I agree with you, although as already mentioned the result of the demo game is obviously different from when you play for real money. But I understand what you wanted to say.

As for the fact that you basically filled the time with slots, I understand that this is something that kills the time, but in such situations it's mainly about strong will, because you can easily fall for it. So I think it's great that you stopped. 

Anyway, of course, if you feel that you can help someone with your advice, go ahead. I think sometimes it's good to hear experiences from such players. However, of course, everything respectfully and within the rules.  🙂

I'm playing demo sometimes, but had also bad experience when i played for money, accidentaly chose fun mode, won in fun mode and was so exited, but it was fake win(

You can add Netent/Evolution gaming to the list of rogue games providers the returns are a joke and on one slot I played in particular Finn and the Swirly Spin, although a good slot to play entertainment wise, once you start losing in my experience it never ever recovers and the you reach 0. The rest of the slots are rubbish 99.6% RTP my arse!!