Scarabwins - ROGUE CASINO (strana 3)

I legally posted replies to you on this forum and you deleted them. I did NOT break any forum rules.

Is that fair?

"Illegal and unfair are two different things"

So, a casino commits an illegal act and according to you it is not unfair.

I'm shocked at your response.

Dear Dmr1,

You still keep twisting the words, I see.

Let's start over:

I've personally explained to you many times that we do not focus on the law here simply because it varies a lot depending on specific conditions.

Are you the one who decides what is legal - in Germany or Brazil? Just imagine we do not go this far; instead, we consider things fair and leave the law to lawyers.

I'm shocked you still do not understand what fairness actually means, for instance.

If you aim to complain about illegality, find some lawyer forum, hm? I'm sure you'll be more satisfied somewhere else with a bunch of graduated lawyers. This is meant honestly, so do not twist it again, please.

You did it by lying, for instance.

Is lying about Casino Guru fair? On our own forum?

We are here to help players, not to waste time explaining the same principles over and over again to people who actually do not care.

This is another topic we have already discussed in the past.

I won't start this again.

But note now, for the last time: Do that once again, and your account will be banned. People who aim to provoke, lie, and spam are not welcome.

I'm sure you know.

I understand that if something is illegally it is therefore clearly unfair.

Maybe start a poll to see who agrees or disagrees with this point.

There is NO twisting of words as its very black and white.

Casinos that miscode Visa/MasterCard payments are acting illegally in EVERY country in the World and also clearly unfairly. It's not that hard to understand really.

We understand that it is not. It was already proven in many complaints, most often about restricted countries and refunds.

Our approach will remain the same whether you keep telling the same story or not.

People who aim to seek discussions about legality won't find it here with admins because we care about fairness.

That's all.

I had a really good chat with my bank’s fraud team today and they are being very supportive and helpful.

The bank put a stop on my card so any refunds are no longer possible via the original payment method - two casinos/commercial companies wisely returned my deposits!

If I can help just one vulnerable person, by exposing non-GAMSTOP casinos who are not Anti-Money Laundering Compliant, my time will have been worth it!

IMPORTANT (source ThePOGG.com)

Every UK licensed gambling operator is required by the regulator to engage with the GAMSTOP program. There are no exceptions to this rule anymore.

The only casinos that will accept UK players that are not part of the GAMSTOP program are casinos that are unlicensed and accepting UK players illegally!

It is not legal for any casino that does not hold a UKGC license to accept UK players. Any casino not on GAMSTOP does not hold a UKGC license. However, it is the business that is committing an illegal offense, not the player.

As of November 15, 2023, the Curaçao Gaming Control Board (GCB) shall be accepting and processing online gaming license applications. Online gaming licenses shall be based on the current law National Ordinance on Offshore Games of Hazard (NOOGH) and shall be granted directly by the GCB.

Operators under master licensors can continue to operate under present conditions but need to be registered with GCB.

The 4 master Curaçao license holders:

• Antillephone N.V. with license number 8048 / JAZ
• Curaçao eGaming with license number Cyberluck Curaçao NV 1668 / JAZ
• Curaçao Interactive Licensing N.V. with license number (C.I.L.) 5536 / JAZ
• Gaming Curaçao with license number 365 / JAZ

We can only hope this sees unscrupulous operators disappearing down sink holes!

Sadly, until we rid the world of rogue casino operators everyone is being put at risk.

The Curaçao (GCB) has started implementing a ‘long overdue’ Licensing reform! (see my post further up)

I researched the commercial companies that showed on my bank statement for deposits and contacted them to ask for my money back. I managed to recoup over £600. I have to emphasise, I was not a sore loser, but moreover, I took exception to playing, on what I now know as, ‘untrustworthy casinos’.

I have spent hundreds of hours looking into this and there is much to do. If unscrupulous casinos can be stopped legislatively that would be great but essentially PLAYERS MUST EXERCISE CAUTION!

I have found, it is not until players start looking into rogue operators (usually after substantial losses) they suddenly realise something is terribly wrong in the gambling industry!

‘Addicts’ and/or the ‘vulnerable’ won’t be looking for reasons NOT to register, how then do we put a safety net around them!?

We can push hard for legislation reforms but so much more needs to be done! There will always be deceitful people out there but having a license (or not! as is the case with many operators) to print money MUST have serious consequences, especially because the lack of social responsibility is breaking lives and hearts!

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Why would you add a link for a closed casino - what’s your MO?!

Hi affiliate links are not allowed on the forum, so don't continue because there will be consequences. Also, I would like to know why you are sharing a casino that is closed ? 🤔

well, this article is interesting https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gambling-usa-dummies-exclusive-idUSKBN19D137/

It would be good to see what has happened since, as I believe this article is from 2017. I do like the label ‘transaction laundering’ now off to look into it in more depth!

So much to research, it’s a minefield out there and it’s getting worse!

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I am wondering what is the outlook on this here in the UK, when say you press a dispute on an unknown merchant, would they fight it back I wonder because genius that must be illegal!

It seems many payment merchants are missing red flags when it comes to transactions being deposited to a gambling operator. Unscrupulous casino operators often use third parties or even bogus companies to hide the real destination of your money. The biggest issue is they use the adage ‘you deposited the money, gambling is a risk, now you are crying because you lost and you want your money back!

I am sure I can speak for most players, who have experienced this, by saying it is not about losing and being bitter, after all players understand the risks, but, unethical casinos are not PLAYING FAIR and because of that you are not getting what you paid for!

I would like to think merchants are having serious discussions to find a resolution for this growing issue!

Transaction laundering allows criminals to set up seemingly legitimate websites, process transactions through a legitimate merchant's payment service provider (PSP) account, and ultimately launder their illicit funds

I am still wondering how miscoding those transactions works under UK law, I know for a fact that miscoding in the USA is illegal. I tried to get in touch with Mastercard today, but it is almost impossible as they do not have a dedicated line for it. I have also reported all these sites to the UK Gambling Commission.

There has to be a global shake up in the gambling and gaming world - never has there been a more critical time for players to be protected from rogue operators who either have or do not have a ‘license to steal’ - we all know casinos are high risk but where there is corruption there is simply no level playing field. It is not FAIR and they do not CARE!

Especially when you have a gamstop and you then can play at these casinos using even a credit card as these codes which transfer back to VISA or Mastercard are under retail or merchant codes. I have also researched a few companies on my bank statements and some of them are even under company house beta! However none of their phones are working if you try to call them also if you run a check they have low traffic on their websites and they have hidden owner ID Interestingly one merchant operates a new business with practically no traffic to their website selling some household items, but on companies house filled their statement with 140k revenue??? I agree this just looks so shady and it is sad it targets also the most vulnerable!