Vytvořte petici pro kasina, aby propagovala skutečné RTP výherních automatů

What do you think?

I see all the slot machines advertising from 90% upwards, but in reality the RTP is often divided into tranches, for example:

• 30% in normal rounds
• 25% in bonus rounds
• 25% in any other slot mode.

(example)

In other words, I think it would be interesting to advertise the real RTP's as they are sold to operators, it would be fairer and more transparent for everyone.

Public example: https://www.pgsoft.com/uploads/Games/Pdf/CaishenWins_Gameinformation_EN.pdf

Open to new ideas.

O que acham da ideia?

Eu vejo todas as Slots Machine a publicitar de 90% para cima, mas na realidade muitas vezes o RTP vem dividido por tranches por exemplo:

• 30% em rodadas normais
• 25% nas rondas bónus
• 25% noutra modalidade qualquer da Slot.

(exemplo)

Ou seja acho que seria interessante publicitar os RTP's reais como são vendidos aos operadores, seria mais justo e mais transparente para todos.

Exemplo público: https://www.pgsoft.com/uploads/Games/Pdf/CaishenWins_Gameinformation_EN.pdf

Aberto a novas ideias.

Well, all this should be controlled by the game providers and the licensing authority in each casino, actually.

Casinos shouldn't do as they want, I believe, and should always display the real RTP.

May I ask, how can you be sure about these numbers, though? How can you calculate the RTP at some casino yourself?

I'm not at all sure what the operators' real RTPs are, because unfortunately that's not public, and obviously all the machines have to make a profit...

But it would be interesting to have a study on the high prizes (which are the ones that really adjust the RTP positively) to see if they are won by medium/long-term players, or by new players who have just arrived in this casino world. Even for the sake of transparency, it would be good to have studies.

I've been doing a brief search and haven't found anything about it.

Não tenho a certeza nenhuma dos RTP's reais dos Operadores porque isso não é publico infelizmente, e obviamente todas as máquinas têm que dar lucro...

Mas seria interessante haver um estudo sobre os prémios altos (que são os que de verdade ajustam o RTP positivamente) para perceber se os mesmos são ganhos por jogadores de médio/longo prazo, ou por jogadores novos acabados de chegar a este Mundo dos Casinos. Até por uma questão de transparência era bom haver estudos.

Estive a fazer uma breve pesquisa não encontrei nada sobre.

Hello, same topic I see. 😀

I believe, hence, the response may also be the same as here 👈 Sorry for stepping in, just one point:

In licensed casinos with original games, the RNG runs nonstop; it does not matter who plays.

I'm wondering why Portuguese casinos seem to be so intriguing for someone who set Nigeria as their country of origin. I'm really just curious; feel free to continue with the very same conversation in the other thread, if you like. Thanks!

I selected Nigeria out of curiosity to see which game operators worked there, nothing more.

In the future I'll leave a compilation of results from "Portuguese" sites with: stake, number of spins and RTP, for each game.

Eu selecionei Nigéria por questão de curiosidade para ver que operadores de jogos trabalhavam lá nada mais.

No futuro deixarei um compilado de resultados dos sites "portugueses" com: stake, número de spins e RTP, por cada jogo.

I see now, thank you. You know, our website is becoming increasingly tailored to each user's country settings, which sometimes causes a bit of a mess because players can't see the same results. We occasionally find a missing piece on your side, so I was hoping that all is correctly accessible. 🙂

It seems you truly enjoy data collecting and testing; is that so? Well, if I may, the more spin, the better. However, most games will only reveal the true RTP if reverse-engineered. For example, the more special features the game offers, the greater the number of volatility variants it has. This also affects the RTP if you attempt to assess it with an insufficient number of spins.

I thought you might find this information useful.

It was even more to see if there were any sites offering good initial promotions abroad, as here in Portugal they are limited.

As you can probably see, I've already registered on some without clearing my cookies (affiliating with you) and I've even deposited on one or the other.

I don't collect data from anywhere, I've just demanded my total history from all the companies I've played for in order to do this study (using only my data), and if they authorize it I'll publish it in the future, but it'll take weeks or months perhaps.

That's what I mean about RTP's, Slots should present these "RTP's for special resources" it would be the right thing heheheh

Até foi mais para ver se haviam sites a oferecer boas promoções iniciais no estrangeiro, pois aqui em Portugal são limitados.

Como devem conseguir visualizar eu já me registei em alguns sem limpar os cookies (afiliando a vocês) e até depositei num ou noutro.

Não coleto dados de lado nenhum, só exigi os meus históricos totais a todas as empresas onde joguei para fazer o tal estudo (unicamente com os meus dados), e se autorizarem publicarei no futuro, mas vai demorar semanas ou meses talvez.

É isso que falo dos RTP's, as Slots deveriam apresentar esses "RTP's por recursos especiais" seria o mais correto heheheh

I think I caught your drift now. I also find bonus offers from abroad to be more interesting than the options available in my country. 😀

In any case, that sounds like a very complex plan! I guess it will be fascinating to see how long it takes to get complete gaming history. As far as I recall, not every casino is willing to provide complete gaming history, based on player complaints I witnessed and associated difficulties on a few occasions.

The concept of having an RTP for special resources is also quite intriguing! But I'm probably more used to the volatility level, which, in my opinion, says it all, since some providers directly offer you a button for changing between low and high volatility during the game.